I’ve been looking for a way to discover new music. Spotify used to be quite good, but now I feel like 10% of the stuff it recommends me is AI slop.
How do you navigate the music-scape?
I’ve used https://www.music-map.com/ a few times but not lately, so I don’t know how exclusive it is in regards to AI music.
People using Spotify need a surprise rectal exam.
Fetishpost. Ew.
You wish.
Spring any company broadcasting ICE commercials should be punishable.
And they should be liquidated or forced to provide free, no ad service.
I think I just vomited in my mouth, I didn’t read that right, did I? ICE FUCKING ADS?
Hitler has a boner in hell right now.
Yup. Existing subscribers don’t get ads, so they never know. When we found out, we cancelled, trying Apple Music now, jury is still out on that one.
I listen to podcasts. Electronic music has the advantage of the concept of dj sets so you get podcasts that mimic them and find out new stuff that way. Also something that might translate to other genres is getting familiar with record labels and tracking their new releases.
I literally look for live performances on YouTube and then look for similar recommendations or, if the artist did it, their list of recommended channels on their own channel.
I work listening to ambient, which is a terrible minefield for AI, but having discovered Martin Stûrtzer led me to discover a bunch of new no AI instrumental and electronic (mostly modular analog synth) music artists.
I just skip the AI stuff same as I’d skip any bad song. If a good song was AI generated I don’t mind it honestly, but I’ve yet to hear one.
In my experience though I’ve not seen a single AI generated song yet. I discover music primarily from Spotify, at the bottom of my playlists where it shows recommended songs to add, or below songs in the player view where it shows “similar to” or something like that.
I personally am a big fan of Rate Your Music. By cataloging and rating my music opinions there I’m able to get interesting recommendations, but moreso I’m able to actively navigate and explore music by genre, year, year-range, influence, even descriptor tag (breakup or migration, for example).
Better is engaging with it as a pseudo-community; finding others with similar tastes and seeing what else they like, or finding review authors whose writing resonates with you and following them.
As for how this pertains to AI, well you have sort of some protection in the crowd effect; obvious AI is likely to get either called out as such or buried in low review scoring. Users of RYM aren’t infallible of course, but in much the same way that the average lemmy user is already a comparative poweruser when compared to the average reddit user just due to the narrowing of field and additional barrier to entry serving as a filter for those less invested in decentralized internet spaces, the average RYM user is more music savvy and discerning as a listener than the average Spotify listener*️⃣, most of whom just want something on in the background while they do their errands. It’s not going to be a foolproof solution, but at least RYM feels more to me like navigating music through the lens of listeners rather than marketers and algorithms.
(*️⃣This is not a value assessment, I’m not saying RYM users are better listeners or inherently have better taste than anyone, just that they’re on average more invested in active music listening as a hobby.)
Thank you for the recommendation. I’ve created a rate my music account, Im excited to use it more.
I’m no expert, but feel free to reach out with any questions, and feel free to look me up there as well (same username) if you wanna see what I listen to ✌
You discover by searching things you already Iike and finding similar artists. LastFM is good for this.
Or listenbrainz
i stopped using spotify altogether and limit myself to yt music with adblock and sometimes look at the “discover” playlist or just let the platform autoplay songs
so far I haven’t been recommended AI slop that way
I discover new music by listening to music themes radioshows. NPR New music Friday is pretty awesome, and there’s at least a dozen more in various public radio channels abound the world.
I can second NPR and further recommend wfmu. They have music podcasts! https://wfmu.org/podcast
Record labels. For any band you like, go to their label’s website, browse the other artists on their roster or peruse the label’s past releases. The bands will likely be similar in style/sound, or at least worth checking out.
Blogs and small web stuff can be pretty useful.
Focus on good music, not what created it.
Good music is created by people though? Do you think ai could write an original Nirvana song?
“Underneath the bridge Tarp has sprung a leak And the animals I’ve trapped Have all become my pets”
What’s an AI gonna write about? Any internal strife or past experiences? Traumas? It’s all hollow.
So youd feel ok listening to music written by a racist facist pedophile? Because thats who drives the ai bubble.
I listen to Kanye and MJ. If anything AI music is less morally questionable.
Yikes
YT music is way better than Spotify. But some AI stuff is reccomeded .I haven’t used Spotify in probably almost a decade. I used to use Play music back in the day and got in the habit of downloading albums and uploading them I used a different service since google nuked play music and revived in as yt music.
But downloading and building your own music library you cultivate is the only way to vett music sources and ensure you aren’t listening to slop
Im starting to build a library of albums again, like I used to have ages ago
Spotify isn’t owned by one of the tech monopolies. And it’s European.
Curious how you are using Spotify.
I learn about new music by playing Spotify song radio based on a song I like, and then adding the good songs I discover to a playlist.
Any standouts I listen to the whole album and research the artist.
Its not as good as when I was in high school and cross pollinating with the other music nerds bit it is ok.
At first (+10 years ago), I would just play albums friends recommended or of artists I knew I liked; Then I transitioned to playlists I found, then I let spotify mix in songs and slowly let spotify’s algorithm take up more and more of my suggestions.
After a while I noticed it getting more and more stale, recycling music I already liked and looping it.
More recently, it’s just completely off 1/2 the time, and suggesting very boring music that I suspect they commissioned and own the rights for. The playlists are all “made by Spotify” and are similar to the auto suggestions.
So I stopped using Spotify suggestions, then, as the UI got more and more bloated with stuff I don’t care for (merch, podcasts, audiobooks), I straight up switched to Qobuz for its clean UI.
But now my recommendations come from Youtube or friends.
Which is why I made this post :) (which has turned out to be a gold mine!)



