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      I’ll fight you to say it loudest.

      I get that they were supposedly somehow pretty influential but nothing in their catalog is pleasant to listen to.

      It has all the quality of a garage band of middle school children recorded on a tape recorder that was run over by their dads car.

      I couldn’t even pretend to like it to get with a really hot hippie chick in high school, not worth it.

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    Kings of Leon? Nickelback? I’d also suggest Right Said Fred, but AFAIK they’ve always been derided and I’m Too Sexy is a meme at this point.

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    Sleep Token.

    And I’m not saying that because they’re currently popular. But I’m just about done with gimmicky pretentious bands like them. All of their songs are almost 10 minutes long too. Not listening to that. President recently did debut last year but all of that hype amounted to a wet fart.

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    Why is it always KISS? People are making the mistake of treating KISS as musicians. They are showmen and good at their job. The music is just the background. I saw them live once and it was one of the best shows I’ve ever seen.

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      To me a lot of hate comes from the showman part. They toured too long. Last time I saw them in 2014 or so, I walked out. It was awful. The music was the music. The show was painful.

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      Also, KISS is enjoyable to listen to. I’m not putting on headphones, taking my choice of medication, and having a transcendental experience.

      I’m Shouting Out Loud. I’m Lickin’ It Up. I’m Rock n’ Rolling All Nite (and Partying Every Day). I’m Detriot Rock City…ing.

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      Gene Simmons is a bastard who recently played down Ace Frehley’s death.

      KISS just never did it for me, I only liked maybe three songs from them. All that they were ever capable of, musically, was write songs about just plain love and cheesy at that. They were mostly a cheesy band just decked out in a gimmick more than anything and they merchandised the hell out of themselves for years. Nothing was off limits. But that didn’t make the music any better.

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    If they put in the work establishing themselves, composing and playing music, recording, touring, and attracting a fan base, then they deserve every bit of it.

    I can’t stand Kiss, and about 90% of all the other bullshit out there, but its not my place in the cosmos to harsh someone else’s buzz about the music they like. My tastes are extremely eclectic, and only a tiny percentage would be into the same stuff I’m into. I wouldn’t tolerate criticism of my musical tastes, and I’m not about to criticize someone else’s.

    Like what you want, WTF should I care?

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      I think anther reason why I don’t like kiss is there fans. As an example I have a coworker in his late 50’s and he is a huge kiss fan. But not just he is a fan YOU have to be a fan too or he will be mad at you. You can’t say that they suck or he will yell at you like a child. And his whole wardrobe is either kiss, Harley Davison, or Trump.

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    To be honest? AC/DC; they’ve got plenty of good songs but plenty of duds as well. It’s pretty much become one of those bands that if you ask someone, who’s wearing their tshirt what their favourite song/album is, they either won’t be able to give you an answer, or pick a really obvious one (most likely either Highway to Hell or Hell’s Bells).

    It’s the same with Metallica and, to a lesser extent, Iron Maiden.

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      Metallica for sure as a 42 year old I’m a fan of them or to be specific I’m a fan of 2 albums, justice for all and the black album. I never stood the long-term appeal of them. I have a friend who is the same age as me who is a diehard fan of Metallica they kind of remind me of the next generation kiss. And also on top of that, they helped destroy Napster.

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        I obviously never met any of them but the band itself just comes across as a bunch of douchebags, especially James Hetfield.

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      Agreed.

      I mean, I felt like AC/DC focused more on brand recognition when Brian Johnson took over after Bon Scott died. Their music were aiming for radio appeal, not that no musician should because it means being successful, but it almost was formulaic. Thunderstruck for example, became a staple for sports soundtracks and stadium like events.

      And they’re a victim of their own success as you’ve talked here, where someone who didn’t grow up with the band, will only focus on the popular songs. Despite them having grown up with at least a couple albums that AC/DC did release, like their last album ‘Power Up’ was in 2020. It’s the same deal with Nirvana, always wearing that double-X smiley shirt or having the poster and only saying they cared about Nevermind. The same for Guns 'N Roses where it’s always both of the Appetite for Destruction albums and songs like Welcome to the Jungle and November Rain.

      I think it honestly just speaks about a fan’s depth as to how much they like bands. An actual fan likes a band and addresses both flaw and success. A casual fan only likes what was popular and nothing else for cheap nods.

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    I’ll get stoned to death, but I’ll say Metallica.

    Yes, they popularized thrash metal and metal genre as an extension.

    Yes, they’re the best-selling metal band.

    Yes, Ride the Lightning and …and Justice for All are great albums—they’re on my favorite list also.

    No, they’re not “the best metal band of all time”. I’d even say they’re one of the weaker bands in the entire thrash metal genre. I’d rather listen to Exodus, Testament, Annihilator, Destruction, etc. than to listen Metallica if I don’t crave one of their songs particularly.

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      Hating metallica is a common thing nowadays, they really fell from grace a while ago when people realized they were jerk divas.

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      My hot take: Metallica should be replaced in the big 4 by Suicidal Tendencies, but don’t worry, that means Rob gets to stay at least, he’s the only talent they had left anyway

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        ST is more crossover than thrash, that’s why I wouldn’t add them. My big four would be like this:

        1. Megadeth
        2. Exodus
        3. Testament
        4. Overkill

        I also think Rob made a successful financial decision, but his musical career took a nose dive; he entered the band when the boys were done with music and became their own tribute band.

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      It’s also not metal to sue people for millions of dollars because they downloaded one of your shitty songs off of Napster.

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    For me, it’s Oasis. When they reformed recently to play some shows, it was headline news across the UK.

    They’re an okay band, but far from being anything special.

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      Oasis always sounded like they were imitating the concept of emotion, in their music, rather than actually expressing any. I don’t believe Liam and Noel Gallagher have ever felt any emotions beyond disdain for one another

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      They’re musically enjoyable but I do feel like we, as a society, need to truly reckon with how bad Oasis’s lyrics are. My general thought is that they wrote the music first and then said “well let’s not worry about having coherent lyrics, let’s just have me singing words that sound good at the right time in the song”.

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    If any band has enough fans to have a “fandom”, they deserve it. You still never have to listen to them or buy their music and that is fine as well. Anyone who names a band they dislike, probably has one they like that others on here hate. Big deal. Everyone has their own taste. All hype is, well, hype. It is all manufactured.

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    Ghost. It’s just not metal. You can be into it and I’m not going to judge you or anything, but just stop calling it metal, it’s arena rock. Sticking feathers up your ass doesn’t make you a chicken.

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      Its arena rock for sure, but they put on a damn good show and dont use any backing tracks, so much much respect compared to all the fake ass bands nowadays !

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      Metal does not always need to be about screaming lyrics, fast-paced instrumentals and catchy solos and riffs. It comes in a lot of forms. If you were expecting Ghost to be yet another band where the vocalist is barking lyrics or wailing them whichever, the instrumental to be just plain heavy, then yeah I can see why you’re disappointed.

      Also Arena-Rock is quite frankly a more horrible thing to classify them as. They just simply don’t fit that mold whereas Journey would.

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      Same thing with Avril Lavigne when she first came out I remember a lot of people on TV as well in my personal life would call her the queen of punk no, she is not punk just because somebody wears leather arm guards and has a shitty attitude doesn’t make you punk.

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    Sex Pistols. Don’t get me wrong I like them, but they were children who made one album and were barely a band for a year. Their hype really comes down to the story of Sid and Nancy’s deaths.

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        My understanding is that it was a more or less some kids that hung out at the same stores in a mall.

        Edit: I looked it up. They hung out in Vivian’s Westwoods clothing store, Sex. Westwood and another fashion guy from those stores managed and styled them. Sounds like Westwood might have even fed them lines that became lyrics. They barely knew how to play their instruments for a solid chunk of that time.

        Sounds like a boy band to me.

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          There is a sound bite on the pirates of destiny album where Lydon was recorded saying that sid couldn’t play anything so ig that confirms it

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    Electric Callboy. Saw them live at a festival. They’re sooo popular here right now, but OMG this is not Metal. This is Carnival music. Glittery idiots, techno bassline and confetti canons. I actually left their performance early.