cross-posted from: https://linux.community/post/4052877
don’t give me the it’s never too late bs. Life happens, people have jobs, debts and rent to pay.
Going back to school when you’re employed means debt, earning way less or nothing during your bachelor or master, stress, opportunities you’re not aware of because you’re simply not at your workplace anymore, unpaid overtime during those 2 to 3 years… the money you lose is more than what the bachelor / accreditation costs.
When does it start being a stupid idea? Is it when you’re 30? 40? 50?
Going back to school isn’t an age thing. It’s a self sufficiency thing. Don’t need to work because someone is supporting you or you have enough money to live off of? School is for you. Living paycheck to paycheck? Keep working.
Schooling isn’t that important anymore. But you should never stop learning. When you stop you die - or slowly rot away.
You do not need fancy schools to learn new things. They only give you some random piece of paper.
There are countless ways to learn new things on the internet. Free udemy courses, youtube tutorials or even paid tutoring lessons and apps to learn new languages.
You could even buy paid college courses online and fo it at your leisure.
Or just visit couple courses for some small $.You do not need fancy schools to learn new things.
The one exception to that as I pointed out in my comment, are fields which are subject to regulations and actually do need formal training and licensing, like, as I also pointed out, you’re not getting a CDL through a free course if you want to get into driving semis, for example.
If you need the paper, then you don’t have a choice. So it makes it never late to start.
If you want a CDL there are places that for a contract will train you. There are other places like that in other areas.
If your talking full degrees im not sure I would have gotten one if I had been ten years younger even after high school. The cost/return is iffy. Certs and associates still seem like they can be worth it and if you can get a free ride well then yeah. I don’t think general age matters as much as financial situation.
I’ve noticed that at 50 it’s harder to absorb data heavy stuff. Memorization isn’t what it used to be. Doesn’t make anything impossible, but…
Honestly never. The problem is that if you have other stuff in your life that takes priority, like a family, you might not pull your weight OR you might not understand how to manage time. This can happen to people of any ages; kids with family issues or disruption in their home life see a dip in school performance, for instance.
I do wish people wouldn’t treat a good university performance as essential to their self worth though
It depends.
If you’re old and wealthy, doing it for the education, not for the income, then it’s never too late. If you’re not, then spreadsheet it. Calculate expected working life and expected income for current career trajectory, and compare with expected working life after education and expected income for new career minus full cost of further education including lost income while studying.
Or if your current works options suck, pursue further education so you can do something that doesn’t suck as long as it won’t leave you much worse off by retirement.
The calculations will be different for every person.
Remember any calculations and expectations will change over time, especially with the advent of AI. So do the calculations, then follow your heart. There’s no guarantees.
Depends on why you’re going TBH. If you just want to learn things before you die, it’s literally never too late.
If you’re looking for a purely financial payout though, there is a lot of math and it’s going to be hyper specific to your situation. First, you need to consider the total cost of going back. Not just books and tuition but lost income if you’re not working full time as you go to school. If you’re still working during school, don’t forget to factor in the free time that you’re burning and added costs (both social and financial ) to being busy all of the time. Want to fix your car yourself and save a few bucks, hope it can wait until spring break.
Next, you have to compare that to the amount of money you personally would likely make above your current trajectory. Don’t forget to factor in your chances of actually getting that job in your field. I have a friend with an English degree who sells insurance for a company that would absolutely have hired them with an associates or maybe even just a HS diploma. A co-worker of mine has a bachelor’s and makes the exact money as I do with my associates.
I don’t mean to sound down on college. My wife is a college professor and I honestly believe that for most people, a four year degree is a huge benefit in their career and personal life. Personally, I think the fact that we’ve turned the college experience into purely financial decision for most of the coming generations is a scathing indictment of our society. That being said, there are a lot of cases where it doesn’t pay off financially.
Literally all of the arguments in this post apply equally to people freshly out of high school, except that most of them won’t have well-paying jobs already. But then again, if an adult has a well-paying job why are they thinking about going back to school?
Depends what the goal is, and what your responsibilities are.
If you want to learn, the upper limit is literally just defined by remaining health. I’m pretty sure seniors can audit for free at least some places.
If the goal is to make more money, it depends what you’re already making, your chance of successfully graduating, and how much you’d make in your new job. A simple equation that’s close enough, but not totally correct would be something like: (new salary - old salary)*working years/probability of failure - (tuition + old salary)*expected time in school
If it’s to have a job you like more, it’s hard to quantify and will be a pure judgement call.
If you’re still working age it’s realistically going to be a mix of all three. I’m also not sure how having kids would factor in, exactly.
Deathbed, you could probably get a certificate or two in hospice
I’m 39 and feel like it’s definitely too late for me. I’d be 42+ by the time I’m done and with the way the economy is and the job market in general I don’t think there would be any positive for me to go through that expense.
I basically just missed the boat, all my friends went to school for computer science when they were ~20 so they’re safe now and make an absolute killing. If I were to try that now I’d just join the like millions that can’t find work in that field… For the last 5 years every single day the news has been “omg a recession is coming, it’s coming, it’s definitely coming like tomorrow! Be afraid, it’s coming!” So I never left my shitty factory job, but now I just feel stuck…
The time is going to pass regardless. Take some courses at a community college and test the waters. Maybe you’ll end up with a cert in something that interests you.
Does your shitty factory job do any kind of tuition reimbursement?
Honestly having the time to take those courses was why I even left my last job to take this factory job, but then COVID happened and everything got put on hold and the “omg recession” cycle started.
Unfortunately no, the shitty factory job gives nothing but some pie before thanksgiving. At least they give something I guess lol
When the pros no longer outweigh the cons.
I work in a field that offers full tuition reimbursement commonly, so money isn’t a barrier. No con there.
I don’t have kids, so that greatly alleviates time capacity. So some con there but not as much as a parent of young kid(s) would face.
I have progressed far enough in my career and am on a path where another degree won’t really help me reach my career goals, so no significant pro there.
Personal curiosity and ego do motivate me slightly. Even if I never use it at work, I would be keen to have work pay for another degree that I have personal interest in. I also like having advanced degrees solely for the accomplishment. So minor pros there.
In summary, not too late for me but easy to see that’s not the case for everyone else.
What field is that?
Engineering
White collar always is too late, blue collar you should do it ASAP.
I went back at 30 to become an attorney. I’m now 46 - I wouldn’t do that now, but it turned out I also hated it. Talk to folks around your age in your presumptive industry and ask what they’d say to someone your age looking to get in. Then, BELIEVE THEM.
Damn I’m really sorry to hear you don’t like it. :(
What did you do beforehand if you don’t mind me asking?
once Alzheimer’s sets in is when it’s too late.










