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  • top level posts, i usually upvote anything i commented on or just liked for any reason. i almost never downvote them

    for comments, more or less the same except i will happily downvote stupid or belligerent comments, i don’t buy this ‘does it add to the discussion’ thing, if that was true it would apply to upvotes as well. piefed has an ‘attitude score’ so when i downvote a comment, i will upvote surrounding comments at random to keep my good boy points at an acceptable level

    the other attitude score related thing is upvoting almost anything that has been highly downvoted regardless of its quality just because it seems funny to raise my score by upvoting stuff that everyone else hates






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    good points, the inter class rivalry in particular. i think it’s a reasonable guess that the term lost its more specific original sense when it escaped containment and got into the mouths of littlejohn et al but just saying middle class was reductive. sun/mirror hacks would have been in on the action too

    i read about chav being derived from charva but never heard it said personally - i’m from the south though

    re hooligans there’s definite similarities but chavs lack the same kind of rallying point so were more dispersed. maybe some chavs got promoted to casuals



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    there is a grain of truth in this. chav culture certainly existed and still exists in the south of england but they came in around 2000-2010 or so for much greater demonisation than their northern (scally) or scottish (ned) counterparts, likely due to UK media being concentrated in the south

    the great chav danger was blown wildly out of proportion and i’ve no doubt the term expanded beyond the original sense of a sort of tracksuit/burberry clad antisocial petty criminal youth to include just about any working class kid in the minds of home counties handbag clutchers

    so to say they never existed is false, and to say they never caused anyone any bother is false. but the middle class media confected version of them never existed in any great proportion either