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Dessalines@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.ml · 21 hours ago

Ah yes the "enlightened" democracies

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Ah yes the "enlightened" democracies

Dessalines@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.ml · 21 hours ago
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    So…. Anyone want to sponsor me for a work visa outside the USA? This ship is sinking and I’m surrounded by racist assholes apparently, and I want out!! Seriously….

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    I’m guessing, based purely on the countries highlighted, that this is a Russian sponsored resolution.

    There are plenty of more genuine resolutions you could’ve picked, but they wouldn’t have fit your narrative as well. Please don’t launder Russia’s lies just to embellish your point.

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      I’m guessing, based purely on the countries highlighted, that this is a Russian sponsored resolution.

      Pretty funny how you saw that all of Latin America, Africa, and Asia voted against genocide, and your first reaction is to call them russian bots.

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        More that Ukraine voted against it and every single Western country abstained. Was I wrong though?

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      This is a weak ass excuse collaborator. You get the pit too.

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        The resolution was explicitly designed to justify Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, an act condemned by 141 countries (ES-11/1) including many that voted for the above resolution. Voting for a resolution condemning Nazi’s, written by a Nazi regime and designed to frame their opponents as Nazi’s themself … I’ll leave it up to you on how you would view that.

        If you want to frame the West as evil, you can without being misleading, ES-10/21 is a resolution drafted by Jordan calling for the condemnation of Israel’s genocide in Gaza. That was abstained on by most Western countries and voted against by the USA and Hungary. Many countries cited wanting an “explicit condemnation of Hamas” as their reason, and that is what I’d call a weak ass excuse.

        • ∞🏳️‍⚧️Edie [it/its, she/her, fae/faer, love/loves, null/void, des/pair, none/use name]@lemmy.ml
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          The first instance of this resolution is A/C.3/68/L.65 from November 2013.

          • Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml
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            I did not know that and don’t know enough to respond. I’ll leave this conversation to the other guy who actually knows what he’s talking about.

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              Owned

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      Lol stay stupid patriot

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      “If Russia says Nazis are bad, than Nazis must be good!”

      Liberal politics is just reaction.

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        It is funny because tankie thought is literal positive reaction to anything Russia and China does. Your comment shows it is also pure projection.

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        I said the resolution is bad, not the principle. You’re again misrepresenting something to further your own narrative.

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          So the content is the resolution is good, but its nonetheless contacted some kind of metaphysical badness unrelated to it’s content due to it being proposed by a bad guy and not a good guy.

          Maybe we can get it proposed by Israel instead, then it would be a good guy presenting it because they only invade non-white countries

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            Russia wrote it for a reason. Think for a few seconds on why that might be.

            And please stop lumping me in with the imperialist crowd. I’m anti-imperialism, but unlike some of y’all I (rhetorically) oppose all imperialism not just western imperialism.

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              So the content is the resolution is good, but its nonetheless contacted some kind of metaphysical badness unrelated to it’s content due to it being proposed by a bad guy and not a good guy.

              I’m anti-imperialism, but unlike some of y’all I (rhetorically) oppose all imperialism not just western imperialism.

              “Unlike you, I believe that all lives matter, not just black ones”

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                I never said the content of the resolution is good. I haven’t read it. I’m just assuming it isn’t since Russia sponsored it. And even if it is actually good, the hypocrisy of the Russians sponsoring a condemnation of Nazism is notable.

                Just because a country is anti-American doesn’t mean it’s anti-evil. I shouldn’t need to explain this. I don’t know why I even tried. This isn’t worth it. You’re not acting in good faith. Drawing a false equivalency between “all lives matter” and “all colonialism is bad”. Russia’s Invasion of Ukraine is bad. Israel’s genocide of Palestinians is bad. America is bad. All three things can be true at once, the world isn’t black and white. Seriously what level of Reddit-brain must you have to try to say stuff like this.

                I should really just mute this whole conversation. I’m gonna look for the button.

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    1. Expresses deep concern about increased frequency of attempts and activities intended to desecrate or demolish monuments erected in remembrance of those who fought against Nazism during the Second World War, as well as to unlawfully exhume or remove the remains of such persons, and in this regard urges States to fully comply with their relevant obligations, inter alia, under article 34 of Additional Protocol I to the Geneva Conventions of 194

    Clearly designed to enforce Russian rethoric and force the glorification of USSR. Not surprised it’s voted against by Ukraine.

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      Based if true.

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      Yeah, how dare they celebrate fighting against the Nazis

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        You sound like MAGA. Create your imaginary “Trannies” and fight against it. Grow up

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          Fyi accusing everyone who disagrees with you of being the same isn’t an effective rhetorical strategy, it just makes it seem like you’re too stupid to differentiate between them

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          And you sound like MAGA: supporting Nazis.

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    Statement of the Spanish public TV RTVE in Eurovision

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    UN Convention on the Rights of the Child

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_on_the_Rights_of_the_Child

    Which Country is the Greatest Threat to Peace? (Gallup, 2018)

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      Is that an Egyptian flag on France ?

      • ∞🏳️‍⚧️Edie [it/its, she/her, fae/faer, love/loves, null/void, des/pair, none/use name]@lemmy.ml
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        Assad’s Syria

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          Whoops, thanks, that makes more sense

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      Pakistan pulling a “I don’t think about you at all”

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      Italy beefing with Afghanistan in 2018, smh even America had moved on

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    As someone from the U.S., given the history we know about the Trail of Tears and trying to erase Native Americans from existence, this isn’t surprising in the least. Sad, yes, but not surprising.

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      Just like all the colonial powers voting “I don’t know about this one dawg” because they know their history

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      Yep we boned it, learn from us and be better.

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        I hate to tell you this, but basically every country has the same story, except the very young. They don’t need to learn from our history; they should learn from their own.

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    It’s funny because it’s the same map as all the “Free world vs unfree world” maps

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    Love these colonizer index maps

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    UN General Assembly resolution on “combatting the glorificarion of Nazism, neo-Nazism […] Contemporary forms of racism, racial discrimination, xenophobia and memes made with mematic”

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      The end says 'related intolerance." ’

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    Always the same map.


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      Having a metropolis is not exempt from being under oppression.

      Would you show pictures of skyscrapers in the middle east to compare its human rights?

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        Most Marxist-Leninists are skeptical of the Uyghur genocide narrative because the scant evidence we’re given comes from spurious sources like Adrian Zenz and an Australian weapons makers think tank called the ASPI. We’re also well-versed in the American empire’s history of hurling manufactured atrocity propaganda at its geopolitical rivals.

        Ignore the photographs of Xinjiang and Gaza. Just look at the maps to the left. They show that the only countries against China on the Uyghur issue are the exact same colonizing countries which are trying to subjugate the Global South on every other issue. We think this isn’t a coincidence.

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        Under oppression of what? Of CIA-backed terrorist attacks being suppressed? Oh the huge manatee.

        • https://lemmy.ml/comment/16269744
        • https://lemmy.ml/comment/15126223
        • https://lemmy.ml/comment/14839342
        • https://lemmy.ml/comment/12094932
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    Abstaining knowing the US will vote no is also voting no.

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    Canada abstained? What the fuck, hosers?

    Edit: wait all/most of Europe as well? WTF

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      Because it’s a Russian sponsored resolution.

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        Because they’re US puppets

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      Australia as well… I guess it’s white peoples’ fault after all.

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      Removed by mod

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        This is all the more egregious now when Russia seeks to use a false accusation of Nazism to try to justify its unconscionable ongoing brutality against the people of Ukraine.

        • Reuters, 2014: Leaked audio reveals embarrassing U.S. exchange on Ukraine, EU
        • Leaked recording between Nuland and Pyatt: audio | transcript
        • Counterpunch, 2014: US Imperialism and the Ukraine Coup
        • BBC, 2014: Ukraine underplays role of far right in conflict
        • Human Rights Watch, 2014: Ukraine: Unguided Rockets Killing Civilians
        • Consortium News, 2015: The Mess That Nuland Made Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland engineered Ukraine’s regime change without weighing the likely consequences.
        • The Hill, 2017: The reality of neo-Nazis in Ukraine is far from Kremlin propaganda
        • The Guardian, 2017: ‘I want to bring up a warrior’: Ukraine’s far-right children’s camp – video
        • WaPo, 2018: The war in Ukraine is more devastating than you know
        • Reuters, 2018: Ukraine’s neo-Nazi problem
        • The Nation, 2019: Neo-Nazis and the Far Right Are On the March in Ukraine
        • openDemocracy, 2019: Why Ukraine’s new language law will have long-term consequences
        • Al Jazeera, 2022: Why did Ukraine suspend 11 ‘pro-Russia’ parties?
        • Jacobin, 2022: A US-Backed, Far Right–Led Revolution in Ukraine Helped Bring Us to the Brink of War
        • Consortium News, 2023: The West’s Sabotage of Peace in Ukraine Former Israeli Prime Minister Bennett’s recent comments about getting his mediation efforts squashed in the early days of the war adds more to the growing pile of evidence that Western powers are intent on regime change in Russia.
        • NYT, 2024: U.N. Court to Rule on Whether Ukraine Committed Genocide
        • History of Fascism in Ukraine: Part I, Part II, Part III, Part IV
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        Damn, all of south america, africa, and asia are russian bots now. /s

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      I think the Right has a significant enough presence over here as to encourage our leadership to tread with care, lest they upset someone. It’s not good.

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    Ok, why did Ukraine vote against?

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      It’s Russias way to keep the soviet legacy intact and justify it’s war of aggression to “denazify” Ukraine. There is a huge cultural shift of breaking off any remnants of Soviet “glory” in the country. Sadly it’s hidden behind a lot of valid points, that would explain the abstain votes.

      1. Expresses deep concern about increased frequency of attempts and activities intended to desecrate or demolish monuments erected in remembrance of those who fought against Nazism during the Second World War, as well as to unlawfully exhume or remove the remains of such persons, and in this regard urges States to fully comply with their relevant obligations, inter alia, under article 34 of Additional Protocol I to the Geneva Conventions of 194
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        Refusing to condemn Nazis and insisting on destroying and desecrating the monuments and mortal remains of the people who defeated Nazism seems like it would only vindicate Russias accusations, particularly when you’re putting up statues to people like Bandera in their place

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      Because when the vote was cast, Western Ukrainian Banderites were in power. Previously in this post.

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      Because the US installed nazi-sympathizing government in 2014: https://forward.com/news/462916/nazi-collaborator-monuments-in-ukraine/

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    When your support for a country is so blind and unconditional that you can support genocide.

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