• h3rmit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    2 days ago

    Name one single socialist revolution that didn’t start as a violent dictatorship. You can’t.

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      The USSR, PRC, Vietnam, Laos, DPRK, Nicaragua, Venezuela, Cuba, etc. all were massive expansions on democracy and working class control. Capitalists, landlords, fascists, monarchists, etc were (usually) violently oppressed, while the working classes were uplifted and society was democratized. From the point of view of the capitalists, they found themselves living in a violent dictatorship, for the working classes they found themselves finally escaping violent dictatorship.

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      The Russian RSFR, the Paris Commune, The Bavarian soviet Republic, The Rhine Soviet Republic, The Hungarian Socialist Republic, socialist Cuba, socialist Vietnam, socialist Laos…

      Turns out you don’t knwo what you’re talking about! All of them were immediately invaded, their opposition showered in material support and sanctioned to hell and back.

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        17 hours ago

        Those being anarchists, not socialists. There have been shitloads of anarchist communes working perfectly, until some external force fucks them up or reclaims the land or whatever.

        I asked specifically for socialist ones.

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            Not really, I’m reading more about them, aside from the USSR and Cuba I’m not that familiar aside from some general knowledge in them. Neither Cuba nor the USSR I would consider free. Just is debatable, but I can see the point. But I should probably read more about the rest of the examples