Mirko Brombin, the creator of Bottles, has got Microsoft 365 running on Linux. His posts on X showcase an installation that completes on a Windows 10 or 11 Wine prefix, signs in with his existing license, and launches at least one editor.
He achieved this using two things, an unreleased version of Soda and Bottles 67.4. If you remember, Soda is a Wine-based runner that facilitates easy running of Windows games and applications.
On first glance, what he posted might look like a developer-focused log, but these changes are the foundation of what full Microsoft 365 support via Bottles will one day hopefully look like.
The results of his work
Mirko was able to login into the MS 365 app using his credentials and was able to launch MS Word and use it. Of course that’s not the only thing he got working; since two-factor authentication passed, the suite detected his license, and OneDrive integration was functional.
The memory footprint of the office suite was less than 500MB, so this should be light on your Linux system.
The build he is currently testing is 2608 (20326.20144), which he says is the last build the installer will offer for Windows 10 and 11. And before you get all hyped up, wanting to try this out on your computer, know that you will have to wait.
Soda 11.0-11 (error 404 for now) has no release yet, and the component catalog that ships with Bottles 67.4 stops at Soda 11.0-10. Even the long-standing community request for a Microsoft Office installer in Bottles is still open.
Do we need Microsoft 365 on Linux?
Till date, there’s not been an official Linux desktop build of Microsoft 365, and seeing how Microsoft currently operates, I don’t expect one to appear anytime soon.
What’s been achieved here is remarkable. Once fully implemented, this will help draw in people into Linux, as many shudder at the thought of switching to the platform because their preferred office suite doesn’t work here.
For context, CodeWeavers sells a paid Wine product, CrossOver, and its database still lists Microsoft Office 365 on Linux as “Installs, Will Not Run,” last tested against CrossOver 26.3.0.
Which is why I hope the fix travels further than Bottles. Wine sits beneath every one of these projects, including Soda. So a patch that lands upstream reaches all of them at once, and you would not need a particular runner to get Office working.
But why??? LibreOffice is great, isn’t made by Microslop, and doesn’t use that god-awful ribbon bar.
People can’t tell their higher ups what software the company should use.
It’s great… if you love Office 2007. But it has too many weird quirks and refuses to make any interesting changes to move forward past that.
Well, I liked MS Office up until 2003, but with 2007 they started changing it for no good reason and I stopped using it. Then Windows started changing for no good reason too. Now I use Linux and LibreOffice, and it’s back to how I like it again :)
Because people won’t adopt LibeOffice just because you want it
Well I want it and I’ve adopted it, so…
Make a presentation in libreoffice or onlyoffice, then switch to Microsoft PowerPoint and tell me the user experience, look and time taken is not way better. I like LibreOffice, but if Microsoft office was open source I would 100% use that
If people want to run MS Office and Linux allows them to do so, that’s a good point for Linux, whether it’s good taste to do so or not…
I think people should instead work on alternative applications to have compatibility with the file format.
Adobe and MS don’t play fair on that front too.
I have a LaTeX file from 1993 in my archive dir that I can format and print at a whim. It is a technical manua from an uni research hardware project written in Spanish, initially on an ULTRIX or DEC system, and I converted it once to ISO 8859-1 encoding and once to UTF-8.
I adore latex but the barrier to entry is a little too high. LyX is kinda-sorta there but not really.
There is a brilliant book which helped me a lot to get started with LaTeX,
Leslie Lamport, LaTeX: A Document preparation system.
It is itself a masterpiece of good technical writing. My copy is now 30 years old, and I still use it.
I meant more for the layman who is more comfortable with a wysiwyg system. For me it is great, and I think LyX’s “WYSIWYM” concept is wonderful. But I’d never ask a non-IT co worker to consider those.
I guess I’m the only here, but after years of running LibreOffice, I still miss MS Office.
Don’t get me wrong, I can do everything I need in LO, but MSO is still better imo.
Nothing is like Excel and it’s macros (I know, old school, but I can’t get macros as complete in LO). And I miss Word’s “page layout” where you can just center a text to a page vertically. Details, but still things I miss.
Excel is the one. They’ve tried but they can’t truly replace it.
It and perhaps Word are the two things the competition can’t really land a punch on
I’ve tried a bunch of spreadsheet programs. They are all painful to use compared to excel.
Sure, you can type up some basic calcs in LibreOffice or Numbers or whatever, but none of these could replicate the stuff I do daily for work in excel unfortunately.
That said, the lack of suitable alternatives did get me to learn Python for personal use. And that opened up a whole new world for things I do at work too. Things that would have been a headache in excel are a couple lines in Python. It’s great (obviously very different use cases from typical spreadsheets)
Things that would have been a headache in excel are a couple lines in Python
I gotta get back into it
Fucken Calligra yeah I want all the cells to be dark themed like my OS fuck being able to see my data. Dead on arrival. Libre office was better.
You know we should start migrating (or porting) our complicated spreadsheets from VB to python. This is a wise move for future proofing.
But I’m also very busy, and a little lazy, so I procrastinate and never do it. Some VMs now are so good that I just open these big visual basic spreadsheets in a windows VM, further delaying the necessary task.
Yeah I’ve done that in a few cases where python is the better tool for the job (pulling new data, cleaning up in a consistent way, and generating reports), but it’s not a great solution for certain workstreams. Especially if you are collaborating with other people who aren’t tech savvy
Yeah, this is pretty much my experience. I don’t really use Excel, but anytime I brush up my resume LO makes me a little sad.
You did your CV in Excel? Why not LaTeX or typst?
CV in LO Writer; my bad.
For the latter two: never really paid mind to latex and never heard of typst. I’ll give typst a shot :)
typst
I have used https://typst.app/universe/package/brilliant-cv/ in the past, can recommend. Customised it to my liking though, never cared to upload it.
Thank you! Apparently my wife has used LaTeX previously, so I might even have a leg up. Thanks again, I’ll check out that template :)
Try Baserow as Excel alternative. Sad that it doesn’t have a desktop version.
S(preadsheet)aaS does not sound like a good replacement for excel. I’m all for alternatives, but giving up even more control is the wrong direction.
And yes there is a self-hosted option, but that’s not the main pitch on their website.
Same. And LO cannot do everything MS office does.
It can do major things and Writer is probably 98% there (Calc much lower) but as an example of an obscure feature: Word can do nested tables and last I checked LO cannot. As a major feature Calc cannot do proper tables with headers and sorting and the opinion of the devs is to just use a database which for large sets is fair enough but I semi-often work with smaller sets where it doesn’t make sense and I just need a quick CSV sort. I have also tried to convince not so computer literate people to switch to LO and some of them have missed the proper tables support and telling them to learn to use databases isn’t an acceptable solution as many of these people are older and their needs are things like finances or lists of their collections of stuff.
Word’s styling options are also just leagues ahead if you’re preparing documents for the office it’s just easier to get better looking results. Same with Powerpoint.
LO can at least freely view Microsoft word formatted documents, which is a big deal because doctors and official documents are usually in the Microsoft word format and I’m not gonna go through the trouble of going through pirated versions of 365.
LO can get me through what I need it for but you’re right about excel being ahead of LO. I think Microsoft Office on the pc vs Libre office on Linux is like word on pc vs word on Mac, “just almost close enough.”
Feel the same. Also, LibreOffice has been in development in forever and the UX has barely gotten better. Think I will give onlyoffice a go
Have you tried OnlyOffice? It functions much more like MS Office, though I haven’t tried the features you’re talking about.
And I don’t even think about it. Only Office is, unlike Libre Office, not opinionated with respect to the UI and is therefore so similar to MS Office that I can switch between both apps and not miss a beat.
Although Only Office has the advantage of implementing a bunch of QOL improvements that MS Office still has not implemented after all these years. One example that comes to mind is that the default image resize maintains aspect ratio, while in MSOffice you still need to hold SHIFT while resizing.
I wanted to like only office, but it’s just not as good. Better than libre, I think. O365 is still the best (as much as I hate it).
I tried it in the past, but many other advanced functions I use in LO and MSO aren’t available. It’s been a while though, I should probably give it a try again.
Why would anyone want to run Office 365 on Linux?
Work or school
If your job doesn’t provide you with a company issued computer, you should try to find another job. My wife works remotely, and her employer didn’t give her a computer, so she uses her own laptop and I find that egregious.
All they said was work or school, they didn’t say anything about it being for personal computers. Getting things like this working makes a business using Linux for their work machines even more viable than it already is.
This also makes it so people don’t have to buy cheap microslop notebooks or tablets just for work or college. Also makes it so that partitioning doesn’t need to happen.
I use my own Windows machine, because they’re ubiquitous, but my employer pays the periodic Apple ransom for iOS application publishing to purchase a Mac for my work, because I refuse to buy Apple hardware anymore. Apple decides when you’re done developing iOS apps with the hardware you buy from them, not you.
My company issued me a computer with Windows just fine. Except for Office 365, everything else I do is much better to have Linux native on it. So they are perfectly content to help me run Windows, I still don’t want to run windows.
I was expecting you to say just use it in a browser, which actually I do 99.5% of the time. However, just last week I had to boot into Windows because of being forced to work a powerpoint presentation in ways the online powerpoint simply won’t touch. Similarly, I’ve heard people speak the same of Excel, but I haven’t experienced that one personally.
Incidentally, booting into that Windows install, the updates took about 6 hours before it was happy. Between Microsoft and my work’s endpoint management, it’s a nightmare to try to maintain the work Windows load. I had a similarly neglected Linux laptop and it took about 30 minutes to chew through an even larger window of updates.
Microslop has windows 10 and 11 for free as iso’s on their site because the only thing people pay for now is the registration code.
I download the windows 10 iso, load it onto a cheap ass temu, knockoff SanDisk USB flash drive with impression and loaded it onto my tower…
Apparently it was the windows 11 iso but in the downloaded file of the windows 10 iso. So now there’s just dog shit loaded on to my tower but not just any ol’ dog shit, it’s dog shit that’s unable to be removed from my life.
They do. I have introduced Linux desktops as a choice for those that can live e.g. with the browser version of office and don’t need our ERP client.
Overcoming one more barrier to entry.
Let’s try running some windows only viruses on Linux next.
You know what? That was a great article. Well researched and not too wordy, so I didn’t get bored. If you skipped it and came straight to the comments, you should click it, Adblock or not.
There’s so much slop out here, we should let them know we like this.
Anyway, as for the content of the article… meh, I don’t care about Office but it would be good for Linux in general to have it working.
Yeah, no.
Tool suites like Photoshop, they don’t bother for a Linux version (and it’s historically grown, the original devs probably long retired).
But Microslop? They really don’t want their products on Linux. As soon as it gains traction, MS will break it.
Probably. Even the Mac version of Office is slightly shittier.
And it works. I’d love to have a Mac at work, but I absolutely need the windows version of excel to do my job effectively
Personally, I think this is good. Obviously most people here already use some libre alternative or just access this via the web or dual boot, but most non-computer savvy people are dead set with keeping to what they already use either because of work or simply being more comfortable sticking with what they know.
Plus, there’s probably cases where the web versions aren’t going to be viable. Kind of ironic that so many linux people simultaneously make fun of the ChromeOS workflow where everything depends on browser-based services while dismissing people who can’t switch fully because needing the MS suite with “just use the browser version”.
FUCK microsoft, btw
If this was still like 2010 I actually would have thought this is pretty nice but office went to complete garbage just likee everything else MSFT has touched this past decade.
Even on windows I’ve seen random people using libre office instead.
The last time I opened excel it actually died trying to handle my copy paste of a simple list.
Between libre and office in the browser, 99% of my needs are met.
Collaborating on a powerpoint however, it’s very quickly ‘powerpoint application only’, whether I like it or not.
OnlyOffice is on windows and Linux, that’s all I use at home now
Do copilot next!
Be gone! Foul Spirit! Take your Co-Pilot and leave this innocent place.
For context, CodeWeavers sells a paid Wine product, CrossOver, and its database still lists Microsoft Office 365 on Linux as “Installs, Will Not Run,” last tested against CrossOver 26.3.0.
Office 365 does run in CrossOver, just poorly. They’ve also recently dropped support for it in CrossOver 26, and AFAIK CrossOver 27 won’t be able to run it at all.
So it’s good to know that Bottles has effectively replaced it.
Bottles is just wine in a flatpak, if codeweavers is dropping support and other wine devs won’t support it, bottles won’t either.
Sure, Soda then. As that’s the fork of Wine that Bottles develops, and the fork of Wine that this article is about.
TIL thanks yeah then that makes sense
windows forum instantly announces it’s sloppy, confusing rebuttal. Microsoft 365 on Linux: Why the Bottles Claim Needs Caution
Has Copilot “written” that bs?
It really did read like an AI output. I wouldn’t be surprised if it was punched up by AI.
I tried this for fun myself. Just write a few points what the article is about, what you want the article to sound like and styling, and some technicalities to make it like the other articles. Output 2 variants with different LLMs. Choose one and refine it for a few minutes, until the auto generated images are output. This is the slop generation.
It’s a Masterpiece.
Congratulations and condolences
…more the latter than the former I think
