They’ll also kidnap you and deliver you to the police who may or may not murder you depending on their mood.
What if you look underage but aren’t? What if you take medication but waymo thinks you’re doing drugs? There are thousands of scenarios that can be misinterpreted, kidnapping the rider and delivering them to a murder squad is not the solution.
Severe doubt. Getting to decide what a “minor” accident is and exclude it…yeah, uh huh
the analysis excluded minor incidents involving Waymos that would likely not have been reported to the police had a human been driving,”
I feel like this is a pretty glaring flaw in the study… They got to redefine what they consider to be a collision and ended up negating nearly 80% of the reports. Something tells me they didn’t comb through the data from human reports and do the same.
Without knowing the methodology the IIHS used to arrive at its claim, I’ll remain unconvinced.
How many accidents do they cause?
How often do they interfere with traffic our the standard operation of transport by just sitting there.
Waymos on YouTube getting stuck in places cars shouldn’t be is about as good an example that exists that these should all be ADAS features in cars with the human incharge, and that AI should also be used as a tool and not to replace humans.
The comparison isn’t fair if the human driver doesn’t have similar ADAS features. But nice try Waymo.
They also park in bike lanes and pedestrian areas so I’m not holding my breath.
That being said, yeah I’m not surprised either. Riding the bus looking at drivers I’ll say a solid, very solid 1/4 minimum are doing something with their phones.
Human drivers also park there so at least they’re not worse I guess?
The arsehole human parking in the bike lane can be caught and fined.
Allowing Waymo to do it normalises it and makes the issue worse.
Mney where the mouth… uhh, would have been is what’s needed. Fines for driverless vehicles should be set at, say, four times those for vehicles with drivers, and strict liability for corporate officers for any harm caused to pedestrians, cyclists, other vehicles or drivers.
are you sure waymo is not fined for it?
I don’t think they are at the moment, but Waymo seem to expect everyone to just accept it, at least according to some allegations: https://road.cc/news/driverless-taxis-veering-into-cycle-lanes-normal-practice-says-waymo
Enforcement will be difficult like everything else. And I don’t like the chances of a local government authority trying to chase Google for fines, seems like it will take a federal government to set the rules as a condition to permitting them to operate.
It’s a state matter. Involving the Feds will mean nothing is done.
I feel like Waymos would be easier. You just send it to Google, since they’re responsible for operation.
fair
Yeah, Filipinos are decent drivers.
Waymo admits that its autopilot is often just guys from the Philippines
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That explains why they park illegally like all the time.
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When are we gonna see waymo motorbikes?
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That isn’t really what that article says. It says that in edge cases, remote workers (mostly in the Philippines) give additional contextual inputs to the autopilot. There are some outstanding issues with waymos, especially around getting stuck idling or infinite loops at construction sites, but really just being remotely operated is not one of them.
But block intersections way more than humans. And get stuck in flood zones way more than humans. And pass stopped school busses way more than humans.
And they still have more accidents per mile than actual taxi drivers.
No, they actually have fewer total accidents per mile than actual taxi drivers. Did you read the link you posted? They are involved in 1.5 times more accidents with severe or fatal injuries per mile, but that is comparing Waymos driving in more open cities at higher speeds to taxis in the very slow speed, high traffic city of NYC where the primary use case is different. Also, the only fatal accidents (2 of them) have been the fault of other cars, not Waymos, so it’s kinda unfair to include those.
“The researchers compared Waymo’s nationwide crash data with New York City’s for-hire fleet and found the robotaxis had a serious injury or fatal crash rate about 1.5 times higher per mile driven.”
Yes, thank you for quoting exactly what I said??
You are quoting the serious or fatal injury stats. The overall injury accident rate, though, as quoted from the article: “When all injury-causing crashes were considered, Waymo performed better. Its robotaxis were involved in 67% fewer injury crashes per million miles than New York City’s for-hire vehicles.”
Fatalities and serious injuries sound like a far more important statistic to optimize for in terms of public safety.
They would need to have more of them first for the data to actually be accurate at all. From what I could find, there have been no Waymo caused fatalities - two deaths caused by other drivers though - and four serious injuries, for roughly 220 million miles driven.
While you can then state that the rate of fatalities is 1 per 110 million miles, it’s not really useful in any way.
Wow you’re trying really hard to shill for these AI cars. Imagine downplaying a 50% increase in death rate
Funny how you ignored this part too:
the analysis excluded minor incidents involving Waymos that would likely not have been reported to the police had a human been driving,”
so NYC is safer than other places where waymos drive
That’s cool, can we get public transport please?
hot take but i’m actually excited for these to come to seattle
can’t get sexually harassed by a car with no driver. this is a recurring problem when i take ubers
A waymo recently locked its teenage passengers in the car because it guessed they might be underage drinking, called the cops, and delivered them to the police station
Source on this? that is insane.
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so they don’t crash way mo?
I’ll see myself out
And if they do they crash way mo slo
Nope, not buying it. Ai makes mistakes way more than regular people do
You do realize those cars are not using LLMs to drive, right?
whatever type of AI they use, it definitely makes mistakes all the time
Yes, but you didn’t say “make mistakes”. You said AI makes way more mistakes than regular people. And that’s simply not true:
Sure lol. It’s not true when you use cherry picked stats, for cars that only drive in areas literally curated for them.
Seriously? People as a group suck at driving. The bar is super low. You are just going to form a random opinion on this and ignore data?
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I dunno, regular people can barely handle walking sometimes. Driving is especially hard.
X doubt
not hard to believe at all
waymos do silly things, but people do dangerous things more often like using their phones, get distracted, driving angry/tired, road rages at rush hour, speeding, etc
Lmao the article literally admits the data is cherry picked and only applied on “a limited scale”
It’s a limited scale because waymo only operates in bounded areas, not because they cherry picked the data
This is a pretty good video that goes into the intricacies of it
Contradicts the previous articles stating the opposite. (Easy to find, I don’t provide search services. )
if waymos were as bad as the average human driver they’d already be out of business
Would they? lol. I’m not sure that’s how 2026 works.
fair, they’d have pivoted to data centers or something
