FYI Prism Launcher is a Minecraft launcher ( !prismlauncher@lemmy.world )
*Data is based on 1908 publicly shared crash logs because no telemetry is collected
It is most commonly installed with Flatpak.
The most common graphics kernel driver is amdgpu
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I use this on Windows and honestly it blew my mind how amazing it is compared to the regular launcher. Like it’s one of those things that I have to tell everybody about because it’s that great.
i have seen people dualboot linux just because minecraft runs so much better compared to windows
What if it crashes way more often in Linux?
Anecdotal of course, but I use it regularly and it has never crashed. I’m using EndeavourOS.
This is about Minecraft crashing, not the launcher itself
Oh, so the Minecraft crash logs show which launcher is used? I had no idea! Interesting.
Kind of, the launcher inserts some information at the start of the log with general information such as hardware, mods used, and launcher version & source. I’ve written a parser that extracts that information.
Or what if it crashes way more often on Windows? Also, can you disable sharing of the crash logs? Are Windows users or Linux users more likely to share the logs? We don’t have enough data, this graph could be skewed either way. Though it’s probably mostly accurate.
It’s anecdotal , but I heard that Linux bug reports are actually a problem for some game developers. When 1% of your customer base submits 10-20% of your bug reports, middle managers get upset. Apparently several games have had Linux support dropped because of this.
While Linux often has more bugs in games (and so more reports), Linux users have also been conditioned to report bugs better. It helps a lot in FOSS etc.
Yeah, I’ve also heard that Linux users report more bugs, but including bugs that are not Linux specific. So they are helpful to the Windows users in a way.
I just wanted to add to what you said by sharing this bit of information, because I do find it very interesting to see. I hope I don’t come off as argumentative, because that’s not my intent.
I recall this post on Reddit from an indie game developer of the game “ΔV: Rings of Saturn”. They said how 38% of the bug reports for their game came from Linux users, despite only making up 5.8% of the purchases for the game.
It does make it seem like the Linux version of their game was buggier, but of the some 400 bug reports they got, only three were specific to the Linux build. In this case, getting more bug reports from Linux users did not indicate the game was buggier on Linux.
I will not say this is the case for all cross-OS games because this is just one example, but it seems that Linux users are more inclined to provide bug reports than Windows users are, and that doesn’t necessarily mean Linux versions of software are buggier. In some (maybe even many, I don’t know) cases, the Linux version certainly is buggier or performs worse due to developers spending less time on it or other reasons I’m not aware of, but it’s not always the case. The higher volume of bug reports from Linux users may give the perception that the Linux version is buggier.
And, as the developer mentioned, those bugs exist whether or not they’re aware of them. I’d argue that the decision by some developers to remove Linux versions because of the higher volume of bug reports is short-sighted because many of those bugs are not going to be OS-dependent, and now there are fewer reports of them.
You’ve basically summed up what I was trying to say better than I did. To Linux users, bug reports are a good thing. They help fix things. To middle management, bug reports are a bad thing, they hurt their bonuses.
One group needs to change, and Linux users are impressively stubborn.
The crash log sharing is opt in, as far as I recall
It is
Been off MC since m$ ruined it. Only luanti and voxelibre now. Im having fun again!
Its not a 100% perfect copy, but it works flawlessly, and servers are dead simple to setup. And everything is totally customizable.
I refuse to pay m$ or use an account from them. They already ripped me off twice for the game (because I never moved it from mojang because i wasnt gaming when that transition happened, and they will not give it back), so screw em.
Fuck MS but I will say once you own the game you don’t have to give them money. I bought it on Java from Mojang years ago and didn’t play during the changeover but was able to move it to an MS account and not pay again.
Now with Prism launcher it’s incredible and I’ll never go back to the bloated launcher.
Microshaft set a deadline for migrating accounts, which has now long passed. GP had their account permanently stolen.
I mean it doesn’t sound like it’s stolen, unless the definition has changed, it appears they missed the deadline.
They didn’t steal my account so it’s odd they’d decide to maliciously steal OPs.
Mojang accounts were sold as a perpetual license, and the account changeover was a completely transparent strategy to terminate existing but dormant licenses so people have to rebuy the game.
Macrosimp detected.
Yeah cause everyone is a simp with a differing opinion.
You basically basing your opinion on nothing but vibes. I had a Mojang account and they turned it into an Ms account. They didn’t steal it off me.
I don’t like MS but let’s not just spread lies. You sound as conspiratorial as the fucking right wing you ghoul.
Macrosimp detected.
What an absolute fucking idiot. Who tf talks like this. Sausage is what you are.
Edit: On reflection your comment is even dumber really as if you look at my years of post history you’ll see I’m not a simp for companies at all. Yet over a difference of opinion you want to label people like a little child.
(Psst, there’s a fork of prismlauncher called freesmlauncher which bypasses the need to pay micros*ft to play Minecraft) you can’t join servers that have their online-mode set to true, which is 99.9999% of public servers, but if you host your own, you can disable it and let anyone join
Also PollyMC (not to confuse with PolyMC)
If this isn’t just an artifact of the way data was collected, I suspect it’s not because Linux users are more likely to install alternative launchers, but because they’re much less tolerant of non-FOSS software in general.
Anecdotally, most Windows users I know use a custom launcher, but they use proprietary ones like CurseForge or Feather (both of which show advertisements; something no self-respecting Linux user would accept, but which has been normalized in Windows).
Wow, I thought it was the opposite! That the majority of users are on Linux.
Or maybe it is the case, because the stats have a very limited dataset.
I am surprised that amd is at the top, but the nvidea arbitrary restrictions and tax are quite high.
Let’s keep passing those Linux numbers up!
Side note: why is there a presumably third party “Minecraft launcher”, doesn’t the app just open? What does this do?
minecraft has a vanilla launcher too, because the game has no way to log in to your account. originally it was because the game started out as a java applet so you need a shitton of flags to actually get the game to run normally.
anyway, prism is a mod-loading launcher. it integrates with curseforge and modrinth to allow you to install, build and distribute mods and modpacks.
Oh cool, thanks!
I guess that explains a bit more why Linux is so high, but still good to see.
Does anyone else have the issue where Prism takes forever to launch an instance? I’ll try to give more details when I get back on my computer.
Is there a variant that allows users not to have to pay Microsoft for minecraft?
No but there might be a json file to drop in your dot files that covers you
Yes, it looks like TLauncher is the Pirate version.
No cause that would literally be piracy.
If you don’t want to pay Microsoft then you don’t play Minecraft.
Go play a different block game like vintage story.
Even if you do pirate Minecraft trying to use mods or do anything with it at this point is so beyond painful that it’s not even worth it. Microsoft has made it a mess.
Bruh.
PolyMC allowed that without a hassle.
Playing pirate MC with mods and play multiplayer in pirate servers is not a hassle at all too.
It’s the same development team, but if Prism officially endorsed that they’d be annihilated by the trillion dollar company lawyers, mate.
Even if you do pirate Minecraft trying to use mods or do anything with it at this point is so beyond painful that it’s not even worth it. Microsoft has made it a mess.
??? This is absolutely not true at all. The modding situation is better than it has ever been, in part thanks to mojang making the game’s underlying systems more modular & extensible to facilitate modding, as well as deobfuscating the game’s code.
The only thing you’re giving up by pirating is playing on common servers, and it has always been like this.
I use it since the login requirements are insane for vanilla Minecraft.
People willing to play expert modpacks are also people who are willing to tinker with Arch Linux.
Seriously though, there’s so many parallels between modded Minecraft and Linux: they’re foss, they have a billion packages with a billion dependencies, weird bugs pop up and you work around them, and of course, the skill set to automate things in a game like that (or factorio, satisfactory, etc) lend themselves to using console commands and scripts and such.
That said, it’s also just easier to play Minecraft on Linux with a launcher, haha.
Well, PolyMC (PrismLauncher antecessor) was forked from MultiMC after its dev had a big disagreement over how it was packaged in Linux Distros, so I suppose it makes sense the primary audience is Linux
I know many people prefer Minecraft Java Edition, but I prefer Bedrock. Java, as a language, is so bloated and terrible that I can’t get behind it.
The Microtransactions, excessive bugs, inability to install free and open community mods, and performance loss aren’t dealbreakers?
I get that C++ is largely better for game development. But Java edition is the better game that got the player experience right.
I don’t play with mods, never buy anything with micro transactions, and performance tends to be better for me than Java.
Also, I play it with my kids, who have Android tablets, so I’m kind of stuck playing Bedrock anyway if I want them to join me.
You actually do have the geyser compatibility plugin for Bedrock clients to join Java Edition servers (also community optimization mods that allow the game to run circles around default Bedrock performance). But I guess if you’ve got family, that does kind of tie your hands, since you want to streamline stuff for kids.
Or maybe it crashes more on Linux (or people on Linux are more inclined to share crash logs)
or people on Linux are more inclined to share crash logs
That’s probably true
It’s the best Minecraft launcher right now so it doesn’t surprise me that much. Anyone playing Minecraft on Linux (Windows too) should use it
I just swapped to it last week, from curseforge. omg it’s so much better
next swap is to Linux, but I’m really taking my time with that, because I am lazy
Do you play any kernel level anti cheat games or absolutely must have desktop Office? If not, just pull the trigger. It’s so worth it.
no, on my personal computer, it’s purely laziness that has kept me from switching this past year. I don’t do much on my own pc lately beyond game, and not much variety lately. I just haven’t gotten around to cleaning up all my data and shit, which in my mind is step number one to sorting out my computers and network setup going forward. I have a bunch of shit to do and just want to tackle it when I have time to do it all, not currently in a ‘tech’ phase of hobbies lol. but soon enough, it is winter after all, with less time outside.
if you’re going for a gaming distro, do yourself a favor and go with bazzite!
it’s kind of the unofficial SteamOS for desktop and has a general philosophy of “it just works”, comes preloaded with basically all relevant gaming communities!
prism is in the app store, bazaar, and literally just a click to install ;)
so bazzite ‘full’ or whatever doesn’t work on my old af laptop, so I went with xubuntu. seems to be working fine. that was easy
the problem now is getting my designated server PC running the server, and I seem to be having difficulties getting that going on Debian, as none of the guides I’ve seen so far actually explain what is happening or are for a different setup. mostly it’s just a lack of knowledge thing on my part, but I have a few hours to give it tomorrow to try and sort it out
Don’t let us peer pressure you, take your time.
It will be fun as long as your curiosity passes the lazy. Speaking from personal experience lol.Make sure your essential programs can join you on the switch, if not then make sure you’re comfortable with the alternatives the Linux ecosystem has to offer. Take your time, and I’d recommend mint.
